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Re: Porn - Yea or Nay?

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General questions; Feel free to skip and just talk about your own experience.

For those of you for porn:
What is your preferred media? Written. In fact, the only smut that's managed to make me interested is stuff I wrote myself with a friend, so it's all rather masturbatory XD
What are your views on porn, in general? It's mostly... kind of boring, with a side order of bad acting, lol.
When did you start reading/watching/writing porn? I tried off and on to watch it, but I always was too turned off by the acting. Then when I was in my early 20's one of my online friends talked me into writing it with her, and I discovered how fun it could be XD
What type do you watch/read/write? Mostly gay with a little bit of sexswap (but not genderswap)


General:
Do you feel that straight porn represents women, or even men, in an unrealistic way? Definitely, yes. Both.
Do you feel that porn is damaging to our youth? Not really? Though if they take it too seriously, like this is how real life sex is going to be, they might be disappointed later on down the line.
In your opinion, is porn a good way to bond? I'd say so. Depending on if you're writing it with them or just laughing about the bad acting, a good sense of humor and a willingness to take it lightly is probably needed, though I am somewhat biased due to my sexuality, probably.


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How old are you? 26
What gender are you? Agender
What is your sexual preference? Asexual
What general area of the world are you in? United States, and I've moved around a lot over the years.
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Re: Porn - Yea or Nay?

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An asexual's view on pornography!

What is your preferred media?
I don't really have one. Video pornography, I just find... puzzling, after a couple minutes; I wind up staring blankly at the screen with my head on one side. Why would you do that? Do people actually find this titillating? Oh, that can't possibly be hygienic... &etc. Drawn/cartoon pornography is a bit less prone to this, though it can still fall subject to the above. Written pornography is the best in terms of puzzlement, but harder to find. *shrug*

What are your views on porn, in general?
In general? I think the viewing of pornography is a normal, healthy behavior, especially for humans with a sex drive and without another sexual outlet. I also think it's interesting from a sociological/psychological perspective... However, there's also a huge amount of prejudice in mainstream pornography; sexist, racist, heterosexist, anything you could imagine, and it's hard to imagine that not being damaging.

When did you start reading/watching/writing porn?
Sometime during 2012. Not sure when exactly.

What type do you watch/read/write?
Generally lesbian, due to my own preference.

General:
Do you feel that straight porn represents women, or even men, in an unrealistic way?
Ohhhh yes. Unrealistic, and very harmful.

Do you feel that porn is damaging to our youth?
As I said above, I don't really see how the prejudices displayed in mainstream pornography could possibly not be damaging, especially to a young person whose views are not yet solidified. I think that pornography should be discussed in health classes and by parents, and those prejudices mentioned, discussed and criticized.
So no, I don't think that pornography in and of itself is damaging. I think that the widespread prejudice displayed and glorified in pornography can easily be damaging.

In your opinion, is porn a good way to bond?
... probably, since some people seem to use it as such; but I don't particularly see why it would be. /shrug To each their own, I suppose. I think this is one of the few cases in which my asexuality creates a fundamental lack of understanding.
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Re: Porn - Yea or Nay?

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Never. My personal opinion on this issue: porn is a sexual perversion and moral decay, a vice, and vices are weakness of character, and once a person falls in on a vice, things will getting worse, i know that in this sphere people are treated like slaves in movies, beaten, tied and whipped, spit in the face, trampled in the head, crawling and kissing the feet of other person and humiliated, i hate seeing a person kneeling or bowing to other even if just in a movie, this is just degrading for a human being, porn in my conception is destroying american society along with other liberal tendencies like drugs and prostitution, it brings nothing good but disgrace to those people, the majority of the "pornstars" have or already have had STDs, and it destroys families, i would prefer having a low paid job or even starve to death than become a porn actress or prostitute someday, for example i just hate how the word blonde is associated with porn if you go search on the internet for this word more than half of the results will be about porn, this is something that really pisses me off, this is weakening my race, the group i belong to stigmatized by the behavior of a few, out there other peoples like to say that western women are sluts while their women are respectful, arabians and jews for example they say it a lot, this is one of the first arguments they will use against you if you discuss with a person from a more moralistic or totalitarian society. if you're curious about why i have such a conservative view, it's because i'm christian and i still hold good traditional values of family and honor that once have been part of the american society but nowadays seem to be forgotten in most of society.
This is my view on the damn porn industry, about other forms of porn like hentai i don't care about.
This is my opinion.
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Never. My personal opinion on this issue: porn is a sexual perversion and moral decay, a vice, and vices are weakness of character, and once a person falls in on a vice, things will getting worse,
I'm sorry, I really don't understand this viewpoint. Why is people having sex for pleasure a bad thing?
i know that in this sphere people are treated like slaves in movies, beaten, tied and whipped, spit in the face, trampled in the head, crawling and kissing the feet of other person and humiliated, i hate seeing a person kneeling or bowing to other even if just in a movie, this is just degrading for a human being,
Not when it's consensual. There are issues with people being forced to participate in pornographic films, but a great deal of porn is consensual.

Porn raises the issue of paid actors and actresses, but in non-pornographic contexts, people willingly engage in these activities and find them sexually stimulating. You may find it disgusting, but others are turned on. As long as they're not harming anyone nonconsensually, don't hate on their kinks. They like what they like; you like what you like; variety is the spice of life and all that. What other people do in their bedrooms (or play rooms) is their business, not yours. Don't kink-shame.

Also, not all porn is kink porn. In fact, I'd guess that the majority of it isn't.
porn in my conception is destroying american society along with other liberal tendencies like drugs and prostitution,
Fun fact: Substance abuse, pornography, and prostitution are problems everywhere, not just for liberals. In fact--and this is my own extrapolation here; if anyone has supporting or contradicting evidence, feel free to post it--I'd wager that they're less of a problem for liberals, because we stigmatize them less, making it easier for people to seek out and find effective help and support if they have a problem.

All evidence goes to support that having a good understanding of sex, as well as methods of protection, the nature of consent, and most importantly, not shaming, is a far better way to prevent teenagers from having sex. Schools that teach abstinence-only sex education have some of the highest rates of teenage pregnancy.

Now, I'm not saying that pornography is a good way of sexual education, especially with the vast corpus of harmful, prejudiced dross out there, but I think that guided use of and education about pornography could do a great deal for sex education everywhere.
it brings nothing good but disgrace to those people, the majority of the "pornstars" have or already have had STDs, and it destroys families,
Supporting statistics and sources? Anecdotal evidence is invalid.
i would prefer having a low paid job or even starve to death than become a porn actress or prostitute someday,
That's your own opinion. Please don't force it on others.
for example i just hate how the word blonde is associated with porn if you go search on the internet for this word more than half of the results will be about porn, this is something that really pisses me off, this is weakening my race,
On a quick Google, roughly the same ratio of sexualized images appeared on searches for "blonde", "brunette", and "redhead"--this is an issue of objectification of women as a whole, not specifically blonde women. The ratio was significantly less than half--at a rough estimate, 1:10. And that's a generous guess.

Also, blonde isn't a race.
the group i belong to stigmatized by the behavior of a few,
...uh. Hair color is not stigmatized. That's a strong word. Please look it up. It is subject to stereotypes--mild stereotyping, at that--but I'm pretty sure "dumb blonde" jokes are related to the porn industry by only the barest of threads, in that they're both relevant to the issue of degrading women. And aren't you doing exactly what you're complaining about? Saying that "blonde" is associated with "pornography", and then saying that blonde hair is stigmatized because blonde women do pornography [implied: more than non-blonde women]?
out there other peoples like to say that western women are sluts while their women are respectful, arabians and jews for example they say it a lot, this is one of the first arguments they will use against you if you discuss with a person from a more moralistic or totalitarian society.
Sex-positivity! People--yes, women included--can have sex with whoever they want, whenever they want, however they want it, as long as it's consenting and between adults, and not violating the terms of a pre-existing relationship. "Slut" is a way of repressing and shaming female sexuality (I notice you make no comment on the morality of male pornographic actors).
if you're curious about why i have such a conservative view, it's because i'm christian and i still hold good traditional values of family and honor that once have been part of the american society but nowadays seem to be forgotten in most of society.
You have your values. You can keep them. Other people have their values; they can keep them.

Values change over time. It's a natural process. Time and change are inseparable; a culture that stays stagnant and static forever will collapse and die.
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If anything, porn is a republican habit.

What are those "traditional values" anyways? Why are they better?

Why blame women when the majority of porn consumers - those who drive the industry - are men?
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What is your preferred media? (Written, Videos, Pictures, other) Oh, written, definitely. I both read and write it, though usually I'm writing it for a friend rather than for myself. Videos just don't tend to do it for me, though art is a bit better.
What are your views on porn, in general? A healthy way to enjoy yourself, really, whether writing/drawing/performing in it or reading/looking at/watching it. It lets off steam when you're young, so you don't go looking for things too early, (Or at least I didn't!) and it lets you have a bit of fun when you're older and have actually experienced the real thing.
When did you start reading/watching/writing porn? Hmmn. I think I was fourteen, somewhere around that age. Oh, fanfiction.
What type do you watch/read/write? (Gay, straight, lesbian, bisex, fantasy, etc.) Usually quite a bit of kink makes it into what I write, and what I read can range from vanilla straight sex to weirdly hot crackfic about a spoon and a fork making love. (Yes. I'm serious. It was... Amusing. And weirdly sensual. -laughs-) Generally I'll go seeking out gay porn, but if it's well-written, I tend to enjoy just about anything.


General:
Do you feel that straight porn represents women, or even men, in an unrealistic way? Yes, but what art form doesn't? It's a representation of a person's fantasy life. It's inevitable that it's going to be unrealistic!
Do you feel that porn is damaging to our youth? Ehn. Not really. I see it like this: would you prefer they got out their sexual desires by actually going out and having sex before they're ready, or would you prefer they just indulged in a little fantasy?
In your opinion, is porn a good way to bond? (Friends, Spouses, etc.) Mmmmn, it would depend on one's personality and the personality of one's friends. Personally, I tend to only write/link porn for online friends, most likely because I don't have to look them in the eye when I see them next and imagine them getting off on it. Joking about it to friends offline tends to be amusing enough for all of us, though, so perhaps? It's all relative, really.


Personal:
How old are you? I'd prefer not to divulge this, if'n ya don't mind. ^_^
What gender are you? Quite female!
What is your sexual preference? Hmmn. I believe I'm straight - I tend to be attracted to males - but I haven't quite experimented with things yet, so I don't really know. I could see myself enjoying a night with a woman, though, so we'll put this one down as 'undecided'.
What general area of the world are you in? The USA.
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Corvidae addressed most of my issues with Yvaine's post so I don't need to go over them again, but here are a couple that were skipped over.
YvaineEvenstar wrote: porn in my conception is destroying american society along with other liberal tendencies like drugs and prostitution
Unlike drugs and prostitution, pornography is legal and is protected under the first amendment as free speech. Putting pornography in the same category as illegal activities and then labeling those activities as "liberal" is rather disturbing. "Liberal" does not equate with "fond of illegal things". In the U.S. pornography is protected by the right to free speech. In other countries it is simply legal for its own sake. I have known of pornography actors going on strike for higher wages. This is a job that people choose and while I, personally, am not a fan I certainly respect their right to work in a legal occupation and certainly expect them to be paid proper wages.
YvaineEvenstar wrote: if you're curious about why i have such a conservative view, it's because i'm christian and i still hold good traditional values of family and honor
"Judge not lest ye be judged." Christ preached forgiveness, not condemnation, so your comment that the reason for condemning pornography is that you're a good christian sounds uninformed on the tenants of your own faith as well as sounding accusatory to other christians who might be accepting of such practices as "not as good a christian as you are".
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It's been a long time since I did this, so I shall do it again since I'm older.

For those of you for porn:
What is your preferred media? (Written, Videos, Pictures, other)

I prefer mostly writing now, I think. I'm picky about a lot of things, but generally I can find more... appealing writing than anything else. I only have a small collection of video porn that I can think of off the internet that appeals to me.

I do also occasionally like to go and look at drawn material.

Something that goes a bit with the writing is roleplayed porn ("smut"). I'm fond of writing that as well, but it's not often I find two (or more) roleplayers who have similar skill and choice of words when it comes to writing this, so I rarely find any appealing material.

What are your views on porn, in general?
In general I'm for it, so long as any actors in it were not unwillingly or severely harmed. Porn is where I got a lot on my information on sex and whatnot, or the curiosity to learn about it. I've always known the basics of what sex was and that it resulted in babies, but beyond that I had to learn everything on my own because sex education was terrible.

When did you start reading/watching/writing porn?
Watching and writing was probably around 12, while reading was maybe... 10? Late 10 years of age or early 11.

What type do you watch/read/write? (Gay, straight, lesbian, bisex, fantasy, etc.)
I'm all over the place. I'm not picky as to whether it's gay or straight or anything so much as what it does for any amount of plot and/or how well written it is.

General:
Do you feel that straight porn represents women, or even men, in an unrealistic way?

Hmmm, yes, and no. Everyone has their kinks and expectations, so depending on the person, one piece of material may be realistic while another piece may not.

Do you feel that porn is damaging to our youth?
Nah. Haven't seen anything to make me think that.

In your opinion, is porn a good way to bond? (Friends, Spouses, etc.)
Actually, yes. My girl and I frequently discuss porn, as well as other sexual and personal (or even sensitive topics) with each other. This may just be because it was one one of our minds, or it may be something we're roleplaying or one is writing.

Personal: (not necessary, just wondering if there is a link between age, location, orientation and/or gender, and opinions)
How old are you?

Just turned 18 last December.

What gender are you?
Female.

What is your sexual preference?
I think this is supposed to be 'orientation,' to which I answer demisexual. I've noticed that over time, I've become less easily... interested in things and actors and whatnot, but there are a few subjects that I can't help but sort of 'undress with my eyes' all the time, if you will.

What general area of the world are you in? (Country, state/province (US, Canada, and any other applicable areas))
Western USA.
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Cassowary wrote:If anything, porn is a republican habit.

What are those "traditional values" anyways? Why are they better?

Why blame women when the majority of porn consumers - those who drive the industry - are men?
Ah yes--I thought I'd seen that statistic, but I didn't want to mention it without being able to support the claim.
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Corvidae wrote:
Cassowary wrote:If anything, porn is a republican habit.

What are those "traditional values" anyways? Why are they better?

Why blame women when the majority of porn consumers - those who drive the industry - are men?
Ah yes--I thought I'd seen that statistic, but I didn't want to mention it without being able to support the claim.
Yeah, it was a bit difficult to find something somewhat reputable-looking, considering all the joking about republicans and sexual suppression and whatnot.
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