Whalefall wrote:I saw a few that maybe might be up for some tweaking, feel free to ignore or comment just some thoughts
Cinersi’s descriptions specifically say they deal in life magic, but they present pure fire. I think that overall most phoenixes would fit beneath Fire/Life.
It's said that it's believed that the cinersi deal with life magic, but not really proven.
Whalefall wrote:
The Aquifereptis description mentions causing rainstorms numerous times so I think Water might be in order? Perhaps even water/life given they are also associated with plant growth?
Aquifereptis causing rain is caused if it flies, thus water pouring down from its wings, rather than magically controlling the rain or weather. The Aquifereptis also doesn't use life based magic to make anything grow, it's just mostly a living stone that grows as it eats.
Whalefall wrote:
radiant nautiluses are listed as Light/Air, but given their abilities to give their Magi waterbreathing maybe Light/Water?
The Nautiluses don't really use water-based magic, they just live deep in the water, so the ability to give magi the ability to breathe in water is considered more so tapping into air-based magic.
Whalefall wrote:
Both Sailfin Wyrms are listed neutral, but their descriptions mention Water magic
This has simply been overlooked on the Regal's part, as many donation creatures use the same description for 3 and 5 shards, so the small mention of water magic on the Regal's description got overlooked.
Whalefall wrote:
Given their descriptions I think Timber Wolves are probably Life aligned
As far as I can see nothing in the Timber Wolf description indicates that they'd use any kind of element based magic. They grow and regenerate themselves, like most living things do, but don't use any specific elemental based magic to do so.
Whalefall wrote:
I think the resurrection horses are similar in nature to Phoenixes and Sasrael would be better suited to Fire/Life and Valarn to Water/Life given the fact their “flames” are made of ice
We'll discuss the Resurrection horses with the team.
Whalefall wrote:
I think given their descriptions the black and white ice dragons should be Water/Void since they are tricksters with control over ice
The white Ice Dragon's power is shapeshifting making it affiliated with Void magic, and the black ice dragon's power is boosting magic, which is not an element based magic, thus making it neutral.
blockEdragon wrote:I really like the element feature, but I love elemental magics so that's all but a given.
One that gets me is that Pygmy phoenixes are void-only despite this bit: "Their powers are much like those of other phoenixes; the ability to call on fire and control it with ease" which seems to indicate a pretty clear affinity for fire magic. And Pesaldos are a bit less ovbious but: "Touching the hatchling in their first year of life will always result in a burn" though I think the Pesaldo one could go either way, I just figured I'd bring them up just in case.
EDIT: Found another probably mislabeled critter "However, when angered, vetur crystalwings can call up biting snow and wind to direct at whatever - or whoever - has offended them."
We'll discuss the Pygmy Phoenixes and the Vetur with the team.
RedLilium wrote:
p.s.1 Neutral? Why?
Those creatures don't posses or harness any kind of elemental based magic, making them Neutral.
RedLilium wrote:
p.s.2 Is there by any chance an error in the numbers here?
This has been fixed.
LightningDragon wrote:I know that more things are planned in the future involving the elements - which, by the way, I totally was not expecting and I'm really interested to see where we go from here, and I think it's a wonderful idea - but I was wondering if maybe the list could be expanded upon in the future?
P.S., I have absolutely no complaints here and I don't want it to seem like I do. I just desperately want a lightning element. Yes, it's silly.
There aren't any plans on expanding the element system into more elements in the future. Other kinds of magic than the elemental based magic exists in the Magistream world too, and many times producing lightning may fall under that.
Forever92Hours wrote:How come lightning isn't an element or isn't at least tied to the air element?
Lightning is not an element in itself in the Magistream system. Lightning is electricity, and can be a by-product of manipulating e.g. air, but it is a not an element in itself.
Reima wrote:I find it fun going through the Bestiary and looking at statistics
Would anyone be interested in me making a chart that shows like, our current lineup numbers? Like how many critters each element has, through what means they're obtained etc.
I might just make something like that for the fun of it, I love seeing things like that lol xD
Overall I think this is a rather neat addition~
If you do a lineup like this, keep in mind that the numbers are prone to change as we still tweak on the elements based on comments and re-reads of the descriptions.
The bestiary always has the most up to date info, and can also be used to get that kind of data easily. For example if you enter "Fire" into the "element" field in the bestiary, the bestiary tells you the number of species associated with fire. You can then sort the results based on the "obtained" field. Or if you want a number of creatures where fire is the secondary element, write "/Fire" into the element column's header. If you want the number of creatures with fire as the primary element, write "Fire/". If you want the creatures who only have one element, fire, write "Fire && !/". If you want non-doni creatures of any of these, write "!donation" into the "obtained" field.